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Monday, July 30, 2012

Dr. Stanton of Genocide Watch - News Conference (Video)


Dr. Gregory Stanton, President of Genocide Watch, speaks at a news conference held at the Transvaal Agricultural Union in Pretoria, South Africa, on 26 July 2012.


Here are a few pertinent excerpts from the video transcript:

@ 3:09
“I was very involved, in fact, in the anti-apartheid movement, and so for me… you know.. this is really coming to grips with another reality that I perhaps did not fully understand...”

@ 5:21
“Yesterday I was really struck when at the conference of the FW de Klerk Foundation, where representatives of the ANC were invited to attend, not one person from the ANC attended… Now that is amazing, to have a noble peace prize winner invite and then have no one attend.. it is just astonishing for me! And I saw the polarization, in other words, here, in very real terms. What worries me the most is the next stage, because the next stage is the planning, it’s the preparation… It’s the preparation for how to carry out killings, it’s the preparation for how to carry out forced displacement, for how to drive out the people you don’t want in your country...”

@ 7:53
“One thing that I have learned on this trip is just how strong the Communist Party still is in the African National Congress, Cosatu, the youth league and other part of this system. The farm murders, we have become convinced, are not accidental. We don’t know exactly who is planning them yet, but what we are calling for is an international investigation that will try to determine who it is who is planning these murders, because we do not believe them to be accidents, we do not believe them to be common robberies. It is very clear they are not…”

@ 9:42
“Those who would be deniers and who would try to ignore the warning signs in this country I think are ignoring the facts…”

Genocide Watch Website (South Africa)

An online MSWord doc, issued by The International Alliance to End Genocide, identifies the killers in South Africa as, “Marxist racists” – The paper provides the profiles of all countries currently at risk, and can be downloaded here (374 kb).

11 comments :

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Hallo TIA

You may remember some time ago I said I'll be writing to Genocide Watch. Farmmurders and the ANCYL are firmly on their radar, but it seems that the finer details of SA's polarized state is known to them only through anecdotal evidence.

That's why I'm writing them a verifiable documented analysis of every last aspect of SA's racial divisions.

Its not finished yet, but hopefully it'll be prove to be authorotative enough for the skeptics here and abroad.

So far, the article's content-section is 2 1/2 pages, the article itself is (so far) 6000 words on 19 pages. Wish me strongs for getting it finished. Its a lot of work.

Have a nice day

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Boertjie – good luck with the document... Let me know if you need any help – proofreading, graphics design, research, anything!

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Thank you TIA, will do so.

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Greetings TIA!

So we all know that the 2003 farm-attack report is a bit of a whitewash-job regarding the involvement of race-hate during farm-attacks.

The report :

http://www.issafrica.org/CJM/farmrep/index.htm



As part of my research for the analysis I'm writing to Genocide Watch, I took a closer look at the report and a few things popped up...

1) SA's land-issues and the associated racial polarization features prominently in the report (chapters 5, 10, 15 and 18).

2) There is plenty of reference made to the asserted racial nature of farm-attacks.

3) There are even references to radical statements/slogans such as “Kill the boer, kill the farmer”, “One settler, one bullet” and “Everything Whites own, they stole from Blacks”. (chapters 1 and 9). Reference is made to the threats by the Landless People’s Movement to commit Zimbabwe-style farm-invasions (chapter 15). “Willing-buyer-willing-seller” was under pressure even back then (chapter 10).

4) Chapter 4 deals with case-by-case studies of selected farm-attacks, selected because of their serious appearance. The committee (who wrote the report) could not find any rationale for the murder of 32 of the 49 murder-victims.

5) In the interviews with attackers (chapter 7), half of the perpetrators said that there was nothing their victims could've done to avoid violence.

6) The report found that the attackers are almost always young black men who come from a dire socio-economic background. (chapter 7). It is certain that among this sector of society there is hate against whites for causing these dire circumstances (Apartheid-hate).

7) In chapter 12, the report details the link between SA's crime's violence IN GENERAL and the norm of violence that was established during the violent last years of Apartheid.

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

And now for the biggie... A section investigating a possible link between farm-attacks/murders and race-hate absolutely shines in its absence!!! There is no such discussion!

I mean, if the report claims to be objective and unbiased, HOW ON EARTH could there be a direct discussion of SA's current culture of violence and its connection to Apartheid and NOT (repeat... NOT) a discussion of how Apartheid (synonymous with race-hate issues) fits into SA's racial-animosity and how this relates to farm-attacks? Obviously, this was clearly relevant to the investigation into farm-attacks!

To try to make double-sure there isn't any discussion about race-hate, I word-searched the entire report for the words "race", "racial", "racism", "politic" and "apartheid" and read the relevant sections.

The closest the report came to discussing race-hate in relation to farm-attacks, was the issue being voiced in the submissions to the committee (chapter 9) and in the literature the committee looked at (chapter 10).

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

On Genocide Watch's SA-page, there is also a news-report on this farm-attack report:

http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/South_Africa_22_Aug_03_Farmers_tortured_and_murdered_due_to_racial_hatred_-_farm_attack_official_investigation_report.pdf

According to the news-report, Beeld got hold of the farm-attack report prior to its formal publication (which was withheld because two ministers were unhappy with it). According to this leaked farm-attack report, in interviews with attackers, the attackers said they saw their Afrikaner-victims as "dogs" and that was the reason for the extreme violence. The derogatory use of the word "maburu" is also mentioned.

I word-searched the farm-attack report for "afrikaner", "dog" and "maburu". Of course I found nothing linked to dehumanizing language.





So my view on the motives of farm-attacks/murders? In most cases I believe the DECIDING motive for farm-attacks is indeed robbery. HOWEVER, given the following...
- cases of exceptionally gruesome violence (even if they are only a fraction of farm-attack cases)
- SA's current racially polarized context (also back in 2003)
- SA's history of race-hate (irrespective of who is to blame!)
- the attackers' background in relation to SA's history

given that, I believe that race-hate is a motive for the violence associated with farm-attacks.

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

TIA, to make use of your offer of help with my writing to Genocide Watch, I have 2 favours to ask :


1) Can you perhaps point me to online media-reports/references (like the one on Genocide Watch's SA-page) that published info from the pre-publication leaked farm-attack report, please?

2) Can you point me to references (preferably mainstream and researched like the SAIRR's stuff) that says that it is mainly among the impoverished blacks (especially the youth) that radical demands (like farm-seizures) and rhetoric (like "shoot the boer") find popular support?

(My internet-time for searching for these references is very limited because I don't currently have my own internet-access.)

I would be especially grateful if you can find references as requested in (2) because it would enable me to make a very strong argument that race-hate is involved in farmmurders. The following reasoning would form part of the argument:

Farm-attackers (impoverished illiterate young black men) are members of a sector of society (SA's impoverished (young) blacks) where intense hate against whites is clearly evident in popular support for radical policies (such as farm-seizures without compensation) and polarizing/dehumanizing rhetoric (such as the "shoot the boer"-chant.)

If I can back up THAT argument with authorotative outside references, the politically correct will have a tough time trying to exclude racial motives from farmmurders! Couple that argument with the additional argument/fact that SA's impoverished blacks blame whites for causing their dire circumstances (Apartheid) and the cases of really gruesome farm-attacks (even if they are in the minority). This, alongside the cracks in the 2003-farm-attack-report will make a pretty strong case that farmmurders does involve race-hate, methinks.



Thank you in advance!


To conclude, while we're on the subject of looking for flaws in the farm-attack-report... chapter 5 was accidentally named chapter 6. :-)

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Boertjie - I noticed the following paragraph in the summary of the 2003 inquiry:
http://www.issafrica.org/CJM/farmrep/farmsummary.pdf

The role of race
Just over 60% of the victims of farm attacks during 2001 were white, but it seems as if the proportion of black victims is increasing. However, it seems that there is a considerably higher risk of a white victim of farm attacks being killed or injured than a black victim. On the other hand, except for individual cases, the Committee could find no general underlying racial motive for this discrepancy, and there may be a variety of factors which could account for it.


In other words, the old outdated 2003 inquiry does acknowledge the fact that race-hate plays a role in farm murders – BUT, only in individual cases. The report is thus evading the issue of genocide.

In an older posting on this blog, a rather longwinded one written more than a year ago – and which I would have worded slightly differently if it were written now, I drew attention to the fact that the current genocide of Boer farmers has absolutely nothing to do with the colour of their skin, but that the tragedy now unfolding is mainly a spiritual (occult) onslaught on Christians (of all races) by demented souls of the devil. The posting (link here) makes mention of author/researcher Pieter Oosthuizen’s book titled, “The Current genocide of Afrikaners – the blood-curdling realities of the Rainbow Nation.” The book also highlights, among other facts, the ANC’s use of the African Occult as a terrorist weapon. More info here.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

References as requested in (1)

Violence in post-apartheid South Africa and the role of church and theology, by C.F.C. Coetzee.
See page 340 and 341 – Download pdf here (75.9 kb)

Online Beeld report:
Kommer oor ‘peutery’ met plaasaanval-verslag

References as requested in (2)

ANC Youth League Manifesto – 1944 - (Extreme racial views on land.)

Read between the lines in the following statement:
ANCYL statement dated 6 June 2012

See also:
ANCYL warns of Zim-style land invasions in South Africa

I will do some more research tomorrow.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Boertjie – I know the reference (2) links I’ve provided above is not exactly what you’re looking for… I will continue searching. In the meantime have a look at Rhoda Kadalie’s latest views concerning the ANCYL, published yesterday:

Rhoda Kadalie on the communist and fascist antecedents of the ANC Youth League - www.politicsweb.co.za

Boertjie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Thanks a million for the links!

SA back at stage 6 : preparation...see Genocide Watch's webpage

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