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Thursday, September 15, 2011

Pretoria Robbers Rob Police


A gang of robbers entered Atterbury Value Mart in Pretoria-East at about noon today, where they robbed the Nike store of an undisclosed amount of cash. Three police officers, from the nearby Garsfontein station, arrived on the scene while the robbery was in progress, but they were overpowered and disarmed by the robbers. According to the latest news bulletin on Jacaranda 94.2 @ 17:00 one policemen was robbed of his service pistol. When a second round of officers arrived on the same scene they too were also apparently disarmed.

The gang of robbers then fled in a Toyota Quantum minibus and entered the Menlyn Park Shopping Centre, where (I presume) they hoped to vanish among the crowds. The shopping centre and surrounding area was completely cordoned off by a multitude of policemen, armed to the teeth. The National Police Commissioner, Bheki Cele, also visited the scene.

Police combed the colossal Menlyn Mall floor by floor and eventually apprehended three black African suspects. Two other suspects apparently escaped and are still on the run… (at time of posting). It is unknown how the other two escaped.

A neighbour who works for First National Bank (FNB) has just informed me that the FNB branch at Menlyn was apparently also robbed. Full details are sketchy, but I’m sure we’ll get the full story tonight on the 7 o’clock news.


Some facts mentioned here were sourced online from Eye Witness News

46 comments :

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Another day. In Japan, the police are taught unarmed combat, but looking at our SAPS, exercise seems foreign to them.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Nothing was mentioned about this incident on the 7 o’clock TV news. Not much being said by any online media either -- So I suppose, as one commentator said on News 24 – “Just another regular day in war torn SA!”

Rather odd that there’s no mention of the FNB robbery! Hmmm… let’s see now… police evacuate all public from the mall, so there’s only cops and robbers left. Then the bank gets robbed???

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Tia, I thought of that myself. Surely the CCTV must have picked something up. Any news on your move to the UK yet?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

"S.A is a war zone"


One where the white/middle class soldiers spend the gross majority of their time watching rugby or braaing steaks next to their swimming pools while drinking red wine. Or fishing, or playing golf.


I don't see myself how this fits the definition of war zone. But keep repeating it enough and the expats who left will latch onto it like honey and spread it around for you. And you can all pretend S.A is something it's not (more dangerous) than when whites were the khaki broek baas for whatever reason that's so important to you to believe.

(Hint : Swaart gevaar propaganda)

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Macaw

The FNB robbery was a false alarm! I don’t know how that happened because my source worked at another nearby branch. She was sent home when the police cordoned off the area. I emailed her this morning for more details and to confirm the incident, after I couldn’t find any media coverage of the story. “It was all a misunderstanding,” she said. It still all sounds rather fishy… The whole incident sounds fishy!

The UK trip is on hold, while I wait for promises of another employment possibility here in SA. Not earning a bloody penny at the moment, and the money is just going – fast!

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Rooster

innie minnie mynie mow – should this comment by Rooster go?

No - I think it should stay, for he lives in a safe bay… probably in his mom’s garage.

War Zones in SA…

There are places in this country that resemble war zones. Places like P.E. where you live, and many places in the Western Cape do not resemble war zones, but Gauteng is a bloody war zone – and the “gevaar” IS Black!

Don’t forget that during the Border War people were also watching rugby, drinking, etc.. Some were even catching Tiger fish on our borders while the place was crawling with armed terrorists.

Buck Roehart said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

We are not racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or prejudiced against any race, creed, or national origin. We are prejudiced only against criminals.

“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”
—J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI

“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
Plato

“Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you”
Ben Franklin January 5th 1773

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. –
Marcus Aurelius

“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
George Santayana

"Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
— John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814

And this one Rooster from your hero…

“But in spite of this victorious advance, the Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be crushed and wiped out from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realised.” –
Nelson Mandela

Would you care to give your opinion on all of these?
As you’re so eager to display tour ignorance.
liberalism
nationalism
pan-nationalism
racism
revolution
sectarianism
self-determination
socialism
terrorism
autocracy
capitalism
communism
de-colonization
democracy
feminism
globalization
imperialism
industrialization
internationalism
Buck Roehart

Buck Roehart said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Tia
Thanks Tia... you're a STAR
Buck

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Buck Roehart

It was only a pleasure... Love the logo!

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

We are not racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or prejudiced against any race, creed, or national origin. We are prejudiced only against criminals.


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I wish that were true. Then we would have no reason to disagree as I hate criminals too. I'm no flower power hippie liberal and they can get stuff for all I care. This site certainly is very prejudiced towards who it cares about (whites) given they are definately the least affected group in the country by crime,poverty, disease ect.

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The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.”
—J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI

“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
Plato

“Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you”
Ben Franklin January 5th 1773

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. –
Marcus Aurelius

“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
George Santayana

"Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
— John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814


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I agree with all of them. The difference between you and me is that I held the same beliefs when whites were in power too and didn't suddenly find my voice and rebelious anarchy angsty angry spirit when blacks came into power. Which seems suspiciously and conveniently when all of you started protesting things like corruption and crime which always existed.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

liberalism
nationalism
pan-nationalism
racism
revolution
sectarianism
self-determination
socialism
terrorism
autocracy
capitalism
communism
de-colonization
democracy
feminism
globalization
imperialism
industrialization
internationalism

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You left out that extreme right buzzword "multi-culturism".Sorry there's no way a guy who doesn't have the time to bother to spell check his posts has the time to write you a thesis of my political leanings.

Very broadly speaking I find myself closest aligned to South Park libetarianism (go figure that one out). Basically I like the principles of being left the hell alone , but I'm a moderate in the sense that not just by government etc by also by extremists of all sorts and their agenda (be they supremacists, or comminists, or religious nuts etc.)

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

And this one Rooster from your hero…

“But in spite of this victorious advance, the Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be crushed and wiped out from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realised.” –
Nelson Mandela

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Sorry for the pun but the world is not black and white. I can like some things about Mandela from some aspects and periods of his life without making him into some demigod. I'm built like that. In poker games I seldomly emotionally go "all in". I rationalise and contextualise. I see all sides to an argument. This trait has served me well from steering away and recognising an extremist agenda when I see it.

Anyone who thinks the only answer in life is an extreme one (extreme emergencies etc excluded) is emotionally comprimised, impatient, irrational , emotionally untintelligent and certainly not the type of person who makes for a good leader. In fact such a person is dangerous.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

One commentator leaves a comment, and Rooster smothers the thread with FIVE (5) comments. In short, that amounts to SPAMMING!

Whites… “definitely the least affected group in the country by crime, poverty, disease etc..” - (spelling errors fixed) BULLDUST! The vast majority of crimes are committed by black Africans. What person in his right mind would want to side with these murderous bloodsuckers?

You should really open that garage door – the fresh air may help you think straight!

As for the FNB robbery…
At least I had the decency to report the truth. I could have updated the post and removed all reference to the FNB incident.

Your persisting and ongoing references to Adriana’s so-called “incredible dishonesty”, is another example of SPAM. My views on this have already been explained on numerous other postings. Your comment was thus deleted… the same will happen with future comments regarding this issue…. besides, her blog has been greatly improved and many errors have been fixed. When last have you visited her blog?

Now bye-bye Rooster… it’s Friday afternoon, and time to unwind a little!

Buck Roehart said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster
You wrote
You left out that extreme right buzzword "multi-culturism". Sorry there's no way a guy who doesn't have the time to bother to spell check his posts has the time to write you a thesis of my political leanings.

Why then if time is such an effort do you have time to “try and discredit” other Bloggers… not only on this site?
Anyway

Be warned,
I’m are not politically correct
Neither am I racist as some would have you believe
Truth is not Racist
Facts are not Hate

Race is a fact of life that cannot be ignored
You belong to a race of men just like the mighty oak belongs to a different variety of trees.
The races are different
God made them that way

When the discussion of race comes up, it makes tempers flare like no other.
If a White person says they're against interracial marriage, then that's racist. If a person of colour says they're against interracial marriage, then that's protecting their culture and heritage.

Do you want to be politically correct or do you want to be true to your Heritage and your God?

You cannot serve two masters
Choose this day whom you will serve...but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord
Joshua 24:14

keep in mind, what's legal and right in man's eyes is not always lawful from God's perspective. Just because something has become acceptable in our time, doesn't make it right.

INTER-RACIAL MARRIAGE
Besides society as a whole, who suffers the most as the result of inter-racial marriage?

The children born to such unions
Is the child White?
NO
Is the child black?
NO
Is the child Asian?
NO
What is the child?
Mixed race!

No true Heritage
A biracial child does not fit neatly into a category
And the child knows it

Why are parents asking innocent children to shoulder the burden of their selfish desires?
Talk about identity crisis!

Why are two selfish people asking their families to accept this unnatural union?

Talk about living for yourself
Who will this half-cast child go to for help in understanding who he is
White grandma?
Black grandpa?
Asian uncle?
Hispanic aunt?

Who can help?
Which parent does the half-n-half child identify the most with
White mom
Black dad

How selfish to ask the child to choose
How selfish to put the child in that kind of conflict

Then there is the racism within the black community towards each other.
Hey, Johnnie is lighter than Fred
Give him the better job
It happens all the time!

Do you seek truth or myth

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own liking, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths
(2 Timothy 4:3, 4)

"He alone deserves to be remembered by his children who treasures up and preserves the memory of his fathers." -- Edmund Burke

Buck Roehart

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

besides, her blog has been greatly improved and many errors have been fixed. When last have you visited her blog?

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Yesterday. Same errors I point out on her list still exist. She still post around 1200 people (including "unkowns") and says it's around 3800. Then she posts mostly non farmers. Many non white (the list she linked to by knott was almost all non whites), the name of people who aren't dead and names as far back as 1987.

If I am wrong about any of these things I dare you to prove me wrong and I will eat humble pie.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Whites… “definitely the least affected group in the country by crime, poverty, disease etc..” - (spelling errors fixed) BULLDUST! The vast majority of crimes are committed by black Africans. What person in his right mind would want to side with these murderous bloodsuckers?



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Yes blacks (poor people) are the gross majority of perpetrators of most crime. They are also by far the most affected rate wise (except for murder where colourds are affected by the highest rate). I do not side with criminals. I side with the rights of everyone to not be stereotyped as a criminal because someone else hasn't got sophisticated views of socio economic issues. How do you come to that conclusion that I side with criminals unless you are trying to imply all blacks are criminals ?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Why then if time is such an effort do you have time to “try and discredit” other Bloggers… not only on this site?
Anyway



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Time ? Effort ? To discredit such chrill baseless nonsense requires neither.


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Be warned,
I’m are not politically correct
Neither am I racist as some would have you believe
Truth is not Racist
Facts are not Hate

Race is a fact of life that cannot be ignored
You belong to a race of men just like the mighty oak belongs to a different variety of trees.
The races are different
God made them that way

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No that;s no fact. Ciologically speaking races do not exist. The genetic variance between races as defined by racists does not exist. There is double the genetic difference betweem genders than men. So two men of any race are more gentically simlar than that man and a woman of the same race. Also withing "race pools" there exist as much genetic difference as between them. If you read enough genetics and biology you will eventually get it.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

When the discussion of race comes up, it makes tempers flare like no other.
If a White person says they're against interracial marriage, then that's racist. If a person of colour says they're against interracial marriage, then that's protecting their culture and heritage.

Do you want to be politically correct or do you want to be true to your Heritage and your God?


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Firstly the person of colour in your example is also being racist obviously.

I'm not at all politically correct. And what heritage am I not being true to ? I am being try to the values taught to me by western culture. Specifically scientific and ethical values.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I'm not even going into your wanting to enforce people of different races not to breed. I won't tolerate the type of backward idiocy that tried to tell me or anyone who I can and can't have a family with. I've had girlfrieds of many different racial description while living abroad and if you'd ever come up to me and the woman of my choice and try and lecture me on my "moral crime" I'd sucker punch you. You don't get to tell me what to do with my consentual mutual freedom.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Right Friday night. Let's all chill out and sip some red wine.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Rooster

Sorry, I cannot recall what the original errors on the list were (please do not remind me either), but I’ll take your word for it that they still exist. Whatever the case, I think you’re being unfairly overassertive by stating that this amounts to “incredible dishonesty”. As I’ve said before on another posting,,,, why don’t you follow-up the issue with Dr. Stanton – in other words, pester HIM silly and not me! I’m not interested in these lists, and as I’ve stated before here, I don’t even like the idea that these lists are presented online, expectably if they contain errors. In my view, even if there was only one error on the list – then it should be either fixed ASAP, or the entire list must be removed from the public domain. I though you understood my reasoning in this regard!

Your accusations @ Sept 16 - 7:35 PM AGAIN do not reflect an accurate interpretation of what is clearly noted on Adriana’s page – i.e. the page dealing with Rural Murders.

The page reads as follows:
RURAL DEATHS names, details, sources up to April 27 2011

Then it says:
Estimated death toll: 3,805 – on farms, smallholdings and other rural sites such as wildlife reserves, game lodges, rural roadsides. .. (Up to this point there’s no mention of a list with 3,805 names)

Then it says - (referring to a list further down the page):
This list is invariably incomplete and does not include all the names of all the murdered people in rural areas because many victims remain ‘unknown’ (we have listed these under ‘Unknown’) - moreover, the list is constantly updated with new information because these attacks occur every day. Many rural murders also often are never included in the daily-crime reports by the SAPS unless someone was actually arrested and put on trial – and the information only comes to light in court. Many of these murders are published only after the relatives contact the news media. If you have any updates, corrections and new, documented proof of further information: contact: adrianastuijt@knid.nl or Nol_Stuijt@hotmail.com

So where does she state the list contains around 3800 names??? – Please don’t answer this, it is a rhetorical question!

You said: - “Then she posts mostly non farmers. Many non white.” – SO??? not all rural people are farmers! – And so what if there are non-whites listed! I don’t understand your issue with this???

Besides the main list of Rural Murders, there are a number of other lists mentioned as well. There’s a separate list of black female farmers murdered over land-rights issues. There’s another list by Solidarity, the Keith Knott list, and so forth.

I tell you what… here’s a brilliant plan:
Why don’t you take all these lists and enter the details in a spreadsheet? Sort out the whole mess and email the corrected lists back to Adriana. Will that not be a far more constructive approach?

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Yoa, nice point about the spreadsheet. However, iy will take the cock some time as I am guessing here that "spreadheet" in our language is different to "spread sheet" in his.....

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

You said: - “Then she posts mostly non farmers. Many non white.” – SO??? not all rural people are farmers! – And so what if there are non-whites listed! I don’t understand your issue with this???

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No. You're not getting it. They're mostly aren't rural people and did not happen in rural areas.

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So where does she state the list contains around 3800 names??? – Please don’t answer this, it is a rhetorical question!

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You're being obtuse. She DOES state it has 3800 names. She only says she put unknown where she did not know the name. There are aroun 1200 entries including the unknows.


And I did look at Keith Knotts list. Again far less than she claims and the gross majority are attacks with non whites involved. He lists attacks as well as murders by the way. Why don't you look at it before holding at at faith value ?

And the list of SEPERATE blacks women ? Rubbish man ! Adriana adds blacks women to her list as well ! Are dedicating your life to a cause you know nothing about and having done the tiniest bit of skeptical
and critical resarch about ? Why would you do that ?


I was taken in by a range of things that seemed at face value true. The documentary loose change was one. But what was the first thing I did ? I resarched the claims and found them almost all false. Before we take an extreme view it's our duty to research that it's based on facts. In the case of Adriana the only fact is that she is knowingly misleading people.


Just look at her every day posts too. Everything has a snide aside or innuendo and full of race based implications. But when you source the actual article she is basing this from all this subjective stuff is missing entirely. She's just projected all over the article.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I tell you what… here’s a brilliant plan:
Why don’t you take all these lists and enter the details in a spreadsheet? Sort out the whole mess and email the corrected lists back to Adriana. Will that not be a far more constructive approach?

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Already been done by T.A.U. 1600 rural murders since 1991 of ALL RACES.

Let me say the obvious. 1 is too many and race SHOULD'NT matter a damn.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Right boys. Rugby time. Do you guys hate the rugby team now too because the coach ,prop and wing are black and a few colourds in the mix like you hate South Africa because we have a black government ?

Me ? I'm not an extremist. Go Bokke !

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Well PDiv is "colourful" rather than "black" too obviously.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

spreadheet" in our language is different to "spread sheet" in his.....


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Er yes... "Spreadheet" is different to what we call it in English.


Own goal. Lol.

Buck Roehart said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster
You wrote….
And what heritage am I not being true to ? I am being try to the values taught to me by western culture. Specifically scientific and ethical values.

Rooster… you don’t really want me to go there (scientifically, ethnically nor geologically) so don’t get me started on that topic, besides these comments are getting way out of hand. No make that… way off topic. .

I may be a Christian BUT I’m not ignorant to life as God gave me brains and the ability to think and learn and to distinguish between right and wrong… besides science is not fact it’s speculation by humans fed into a human made computer thus as far as I’ve concluded it’s a bit like you.

Rubbish in… rubbish out

Why can't we be honest about the colour of crime?

Is it to keep the White man feeling guilty

Do you know, that in 1900, the Caucasian race made up over 30% of the world's population?
And technology was booming.
Already the sewing machine, typewriter and telephone had been invented. Trains criss-crossed the Caucasian world powered by the steam engine and the electrical generator was in use wherever White men lived.
Samuel Colt had invented his revolver and Samuel Morse his code so White man could communicate.
We had the first electric printing press and photography had been around for over sixty years by 1900
We had elevators! Safety pins and the undersea telegraph cable had been around for almost 50 years by 1900.
Then White men really got their thinking caps going
After 1900 the aeroplane and automobile was invented.
Vacuum cleaner, air conditioning, electricity, radio, penicillin, movies, jet propulsion.

We just couldn't stop!
This is your heritage!
Over 30% of the world's population and look how we benefited mankind
We didn't hog these inventions for ourselves
We shared them with the world
Yet now
Due to massive amounts of immigration in every White nation of the world
(both legal and illegal...mostly from non-white countries)

Due to non-stop mis-information on the TV, RADIO, HOLLYWOOD MOVIES
"White people are racist, bigots, hateful..."
"Christian men are stupid, ignorant and lousy fathers..."
"Christian women are subservient, mis-led, and anti-woman..."

Due to the media relentlessly and powerfully beating it into White people that racial intermarriage is cool and fashionable
"You bigot, shame on you for not approving of race-mixing..."

Due to the media yet again, the "sexual revolution" convinced an entire generation into sexual irresponsibility resulting in sexual diseases that reduced fertility
"You don't have to be married to enjoy sex..."
You don't have to have sex with just one person your whole life..."

Due to the media relentlessly and persistently convincing women that men were "keeping them down"
"Child bearing is limiting, and even demeaning..."
"If you do choose to have children, do your part for the world and only have one or two..." this is lowering our birth rate
(Yet the dark races of the world continue to explode with children)

Due to preachers not doing their jobs
"We're all one...go ahead, marry someone from another race...God won't mind..."
(Directly contradicts the word of God)

Due to manipulation of our economic system that has forced women into jobs when they would rather be home raising their children
"Your family needs your income..."
"You can't live on just one salary..."

For these reasons and many more “Due to”
We are facing genocide as a people!

The White race is less than 10% of the world's population and declining fast

Every White nation faces a demographic catastrophe

Buck Roehart

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Gous, as I thought, my comment went so far over your head, it left a vapour trail. Never mind, one day when you reach puberty, you might understand.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

wow. Ok. I leave what you type for others to interpret.


You sort of pantomime the extreme right.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

God gave me brains and the ability to think and learn and to distinguish between right and wrong…

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Wrong. Culture gave you that. If you had been born in some distant from civilisation third world island country into poverty cut off from the world it's unlikely you would have developed a high ability to think about anything beyond your horizons. You might become an expert coconut tree climber thought perhaps.

The boer people in the early 1900's were still living in mud houses without any technology beyond the iron age.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Do you know, that in 1900, the Caucasian race made up over 30% of the world's population?
And technology was booming.


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Ignoring your ignorance as to the social construct of "race" why do you think that bares any reflection upon you ? Do you get the honours for things other individuals invented even though your gene pool is very watered down in relation to theirs ?

Isaac Newton could have 10 bastards children with of mixed race and they're far more likely to be genetically similar to him that you. In a similar fashion of you want to claim credit for that people of the same skin colour to you did you may as well be equally aligned with Manson, Dahmer, Hitler and monster truck road kill eating hicks.

Race is a myth man. That's something western science discovered since Watson and Kriek and all that.

Also notice through out history western WHITE MEN rather than women invented just about everything. But in the west we explain this away throught history and socio-cultural phenomenon. Why different with "race" ?


Which if you read any anthroplogy or biology books you will discover does not exist. (There is as much genetic variance ammongst a race than there is ammongt different races.)


Sorry guys you are just fossils I suppose. Catch up. Welcome to the brave new world.

Buck Roehart said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

You don't know me.
Yet you label me based on what you think are my ideas, beliefs, or views.

Now you're convinced you know me!
I'm "guilty" of everything you believe to be true about me.
Case closed.

You don't know that as I watch this precious country we all share degenerate into something its founders wouldn't recognise, it compels me even more to do whatever I can to ensure the survival of the generations descended from it’s noble founders.
You don't know that the more I watch South Africa turn from her roots, her Heritage, the more I strive to find the key to unlocking the apathy in our people.

You don't know me.
You don't know that as I watch those around me be more concerned with what's on TV tonight or who won the game or what restaurant to eat at next, while the country their ancestors built crumbles down around them, I feel even more urgency to rip the scales from their eyes about the danger they're in from those who run their government, financial institutions and media.
A country that's fast becoming the laughing stock of the world.

You don't know me.
Yet after decades of careful conditioning by the media and educational system, you feel qualified to judge me, which is rather ironic since liberals are always teaching tolerance.
You will only see what you have been conditioned to see.
Your conditioning is complete.

In fifty years, what will my answer be when I look into the faces of my grandchildren and they ask "Why, why is my country not as strong and safe and proud as it was when you were growing up?" "What the hell have you done to us?"

Will I shrug my shoulders and answer them, "Who knows," or "I didn't care enough to make a difference," or "I was too lazy to fight for your future," or "I thought someone else would take care of the problem".

Or the worse possible answer, "I'm sorry, I was afraid to do what was right."
If you knew me, you would know that I would be able to look my grandchildren in the eye and say, "I did my best for you.
I was willing to suffer a little, give a little, put up with the name calling, misunderstanding, hate and yes, even ostracising from others in order to give you a better world."

In fifty years, what will your answer be?
I know what mine will be.

You judge me, but you don't know me.
You have been conditioned to believe people like me are too radical, too right wing, too hateful for you to even want to get to know, much less understand.

You don't know that I am a part of those fearless European Christian adventurers who climbed on boats, sailed to parts unknown, met natives they considered barbaric, and then taught them that cannibalism is not okay, cutting the beating heart out of a living, breathing person and holding it over your head in triumph is never acceptable, nor is sacrificing your infants to some unnamed god.

You don't know me but what is truly ironic is that if I, and people like me, am not successful in our quest for White salvation, Haiti will not get earthquake aid and millions of Africans will go hungry and die of starvation while countless others die of unnecessary diseases.

You don't know that I am painfully aware that my People have not been perfect over the centuries.
No people have been perfect in their dealings with others.
Yet I ask, take away all that my People have invented, produced, given and aided over the centuries and then answer this question:
Can you imagine a world without us?
Do you want to live in a world without all that we have invented, produced, given?
Do you?

You don't know me and it's a pity.
Because in getting to know me, you might learn something, and not only understand why I am me, but maybe, if you're lucky, understand who you are as well.

Buck

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In fifty years, what will my answer be when I look into the faces of my grandchildren and they ask "Why, why is my country not as strong and safe and proud as it was when you were growing up?" "What the hell have you done to us?"


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Buck. Here's why you're wrong and confused.

You see you , rather than me are influenced by the media. Let me explain.

Economically South Africa is FAR better off now than anytime during Apartheid. It is also much safer. This is what the data shows us. Also far more people get basic services like health care , electricity and clean water. People also earn more than ever before of every demographic. If you doubt a single thing I have said I will hapilly link you to the data. It's my pleasure to educate you.


So you see your perceptions are entirely warped. Your grandkids won't ask you to explain anything to them. They will be living in a wealthy multi cultiral paradise. If you don't see that you just don't want to. Don't worry human discourse has a very poor record of changing, thankfully though it does die away. Ask Gallileo about that.


South Africa is on an UPWARD spiral. In 50 years if things keep developing as they are we'll very much be a first world country by todays standards. Probably slightly better off in fact as we're the gateway to the new economic revolution: Sub saharan Africa.


You heard it here first. In the common lexicon of society in the next 10 years : African Lion economies. Just like 10 years ago they spoke of Asia Tiger economies. I would bet my life on it.


Africa is doomed to fail ?

So 80's of you.

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Tia blog owner (I know your real name but I don't post peoples personal details online) I must show my appreciation for letting my comments be posted. People deserve to hear both sides of a story. I also must say you have shown the ability to adjust to new data to some extent in your (although very latent) disclosure than you recognise data about farm murder numbers is highly corrupt.


This is all I ask of a fellow man. Be fair and honest. I'm sure if the far right in South Africa could do just a little of that it would become a thing of the past. Nobody who is fair and honest after all berates his fellow man in such a snide manner.

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And on this lovely warm day in S.A may I propose we start to treat each other in a respectful manner. I will respect youir views if you respect mine. What kind of intolerant hypocrit would I be to stand up for people's right while not respecting yours ? Something I've been forced to reflect upon a lot lately.


Peace ?


Really dude. Despite the "word" out there about me. I'm a pretty nice guy with some "kooky" ideas about a country that doesn't eat itself from the inside out. I believe is progressive and constructive critique not based on a sack of fearmongering and alarmism. Is that really such a crime ?

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Hell, but this cock is confused. Having a debate with him is like having a battle with a man who has no wits. I will leave him to his own perceived perception of the world he lives in.

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@ Rooster again….
Thank you Rooster… after following your comments on a lot of Blogs, Tia’s Blog was the one that made you spill your pathetic little life story.
Now we all know what and how you function.
I quote… just for you un-biblical…

The greatness of a civilisation cannot assuredly depend upon the votes given by inferior elements boasting solely numerical strength. Doubtless, too, the votes recorded by crowds are often very dangerous. They have already cost us several invasions, and in view of the triumph of socialism, for which they are preparing the way, it is probable that the vagaries of popular sovereignty will cost us still more dearly." – Gustave le Bon, On Crowds

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. –
Marcus Aurelius

“The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”
Plato

“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
George Santayana

The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness. ...This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.
Plato

The seed ye sow, another reaps; the wealth ye find, another keeps; the robes ye weave, another wears; the arms ye forge, another bears.
Percy Bysshe Shelley

Buck

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@ Tia
You'll have to send me the bill.
Thanks a ton.
You enabled me to achieve what I was trying sooo hard to do
Buck

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I expected no less from a hatemongerer.


Water off a roosters back. Sleep well tonight.

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@Rooster 11:54 AM and 12:00 PM

I’ve known your real name too, since the time you started threatening this blog with closure, in June this year - remember! I had a hunch back then, that if I allowed your comments (many posted anonymously) while responding diplomatically, it would eventually compel you to reassess your manner of thinking. And there we have it… you said it yourself @ 11:54 AM – “I've been forced to reflect upon a lot lately.” - Shall we then accept that sufficient feathers have been plucked? ;-)

I’ve also been forced to reflect upon certain matters lately, and realize that some content on this blog may need cleaning-up, and that future articles will require extra caution - not because my outlook on certain aspects have changed somewhat, but based rather on the principle of “Adapt or Die”.

My advice to everyone is – let us adapt with noble dignity, and may we address controversial topics while simultaneously upholding a state of decorum.

Please take into consideration that I’m managing three blogs on my own. it is thus near impossible for me to take part in all debates, although ALL COMMENTS ARE READ.

In the light of your concluding remark about the boers and their mud houses @ 8:54 AM, I might as well promote the following:

This was posted yesterday in the Tia Mysoa Bookstore Blog:

Lost Trials of the Transvaal: Chapter 2, by Thomas Bulpin

The posting will be followed-up soon by chapter 3, “Winding Paths”, and a most enlightening chapter 4 called, “Mzilikazi”. These writings by Bulpin cover vital truths about South African history – a beautiful rich history the ANC government has suppressed and completely obliterated from school textbooks – the bastards!!!

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Feathers plucked ? Guy there's nothing you lot can do to someone who has been through the medical existential hell I have in the last few years that would make me flinch.

Any reflection from my part is wanting to leave the world with a positive legacy so don't pat yourself on the back too hard.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Okay Rooster, I suppose you didn't notice the wink... ;-)

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Duly noted. Peace.

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