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Friday, February 25, 2011

The Root Cause of Farm Murders in South Africa


The inspiration for this posting was sparked off when an anonymous commentator, living in Los Angeles USA, posed the following questions:

Why do they target the farmers?
What is the Psychology behind this?

The questions were posted on:
Is the Genocide of Boer Farmers a Myth? 
dated Feb 23, 2011.

Although I did publish my short response to the anonymous commentator, I feel that answers to these type of questions should best be delivered in a separate posting, as I feel that there are many people worldwide, including South Africans, who are not aware of the root cause of this horrific onslaught by the African savages that live among us.

Before we get to the root causes, I feel it is necessary (for the sake of those who are not entirely familiar with this issue) to first discuss a few basic facts and features:

The South African farming community has suffered from attacks for many years. The majority of the victims have been white farmers, with claims of death tolls in the region of 3,000-plus cited in the national and international media… (Sources: here, here, and here, and plenty more).

The murder rate of South African commercial farmers is the highest for any specific group in the world - 313 per 100 000. The murder rate amongst the general population is officially 55 per 100 000 (In Europe the murder rate is 2 per 100 000). Source: www.christianaction.org.za

Most farmers in South Africa are on full alert 24 hours per day. For them the implementation of safety and security procedures are so part-and-parcel of their daily lives, that it has become an inborn natural impulse, almost like riding a bicycle with your eyes closed!  It is usually the older folk, who are living alone in isolated areas, who don’t have this inborn instinct, and sadly it is they who have often fallen prey to these savages. If it were not for this inborn sense of 24-hour awareness, the death rate among farmers would most definitely have been far worse than it is now!

According to the views of most criminologists and crime-researchers, the primary motive for these attacks is robbery, even in cases were nothing is stolen, which can happen of course when the attackers face resistance of some sort, or are scared off by armed back-up support arriving on the scene. Money, firearms, and vehicles, followed by popular items such as cellular telephones and other valuables (in that specific order), are what these black savages are normally after, or so it seems… But is robbery really the prime motive? Read on, and decide for yourselves!

If we stop at this point, and examine these farm attacks from a crime-perspective, then it would seem that poverty could be the root cause – right?  WRONG, poverty is NOT the root cause!  A poor hungry person will not rob others, AND then murder, torture, and/or rape their victims.  A poor hungry person will usually ask for money or food (in other words, beg), before resorting to robbery and murder. A poor hungry person will not attack the elderly, who are in most cases already living way below the breadline! Most white farmers will willingly feed the poor and hungry as soon they become aware of their plight. The unselfish act of giving is another inborn common characteristic of Christian folk, a trait you will not find among the savages in our society. That poverty is the root cause of farm attacks is thus a falsehood!

Besides personal life threatening attacks, farmers in South Africa have also been subject to numerous acts of malicious damage to property, arson, and theft. The Report of the Committee of Inquiry into Farm Attacks, dated 31 July 2003, confirms this phenomenon. Incidentally, this old outdated report linked some of these malicious acts to Land Claims and illegal occupants of land.

(Click here to read the details of an arson incident I was personally involved with. Don’t be startled by the peculiar heading of this posting. It is called Savage dogs, vicious criminals, and the ANCYL, - dated April 8, 2010)

Revenge is the motive for this malicious behaviour!

REVENGE, driven by the emotions of misdirected anger and hatred, is the most common motive for committing acts of arson or damage to property, both in peacetime and also in times of war. Besides inflicting financial damage to the enemy, it also instils the emotions of terror and fear in the victims, and also the direct community surrounding the victim(s). In wartime these acts are often accompanied by brutal acts of sadistic torture, and also the rape of woman, --- as has been the case with several recent incidents in modern-day democratic South Africa. 

Bear in mind that in the old days, not too long ago, when a gang of activists committed constant acts of arson or damage to property, they were called “terrorists”! Today there is no consensus definition of the term "terrorism”, which must surely be an indication of the messed-up state of this world! (Click here to see the contemporary worldview on this issue.)

According to an online article, entitled A Brief History of Terrorism, dated July 2, 2003, and compiled by Mark Burgess (CDI Research Analyst), scholars have greatly disputed in what exact era the roots of terrorism actually originated. I find this rather odd considering the fact that the biblical Book of Genesis, which documents certain portions of ancient history with amazing clarity and detail, clearly shows that the first act of murderous terror occurred when the satan child Cain murdered his brother Abel (Genesis 4:8). As a consequence of this vile deed Cain was banished to the East of Eden, but the story did not end there.

Cain was not a mythical character, as we are so often told -- he was a real live figure, just like all the other ancient biblical figures. Cain was the first high priest of Bel (aka Baal), hence we get Cainbel or Cannibal (Afrikaans: Kannibaal) – that’s right folks, eaters of human flesh! Cain was in all probabilty  the historical King Sargon of Babylon, as suggested by a well documented book called “Sargon The Magnificent”, written in 1927 by Mrs Sydney Bristowe.

The following short extract is from an older posting on this blog entitled Has Cain’s Way become the norm?

Baal, was worshipped as the key to fertility and prosperity. To entice Baal to bless their land, mothers were required to present her firstborn child to the priest.

Baal was represented by a huge stone, or brass, statue carved in the image of a bull’s head and the upper body of a man. The arms were extended to receive babies and fire belched from a hollow area in the chest.

As the priests of Baal carried each baby up the stairs and laid the victim in the arms of the horned idol of Baal, the baby was consumed in the flames. This was the religion of Baal and of those who worshipped Asherah. The Ammonites who worshipped Molech and the Phoenicians who worshiped Kronos also practiced child sacrifice. These pagan religions required the parents to have their children pass through the fire as a sacrifice to their demon gods.

SO WHAT DOES THIS ALL HAVE TO DO WITH THE FARM MURDERS IN SOUTH AFRICA?

It has everything to do with it!  We do not see the connection because our minds have been indoctrinated to reject biblical truths as mere myths - so much so that we are not capable of recognizing who the followers of Cain are. Sadly, (and I don’t like saying this, but I will anyhow) a growing number of young Christians are unable to distinguish beween the spirit of error and the spirit of truth. In South Africa more than 80,000 babies per year are offered to Baal through legalised abortion, but yet the worldview is blind to this horror. The worldview would rather go out of its way to endorse and condone it, than reject it.

The actual root cause of the farm murders, not only in South Africa, but in many other countries on the African continent, should become crystal clear if we examine the following carefully: 
  1. who the perpetrators are, 
  2. who their prime targets are, and  
  3. their modus operandi while committing the crime.
The answers to number 1 and 2 above are: 1Racist Non-Christian Blacks (as  confirmed by Genocide Watch), and 2Christians. Point 3 refers of course to the manner these savages go about accomplishing their despicable deeds. The modus operandi in many cases do not suggest that robbery is the primary motive, but rather a secondary one. This brings me full circle back to the concepts of “torture” and “terror”.

The words “torture” or “terror” cannot describe the sadistic brutality, nor the mindset of the savages who perform these acts of purposeful suffering and pain. No right mind is capable of performing these horrific deeds on a living being, whether animal or human, unless that mind is under an evil spell of some sort. Bear in mind that an individual who is under the excessive influence of alcohol or drugs is also under that same evil spell! The root of all evil on planet earth started with Cain, and from there his terror and influence spread like a disease across Eurasia and Africa. For some reason Cain’s traditions and the culture of witchcraft remained permanently embedded on the African continent.

Two of the hallmarks of farm murders in South Africa during the last ten years have been the horrible torture perpetrated on many of the victims and the sadistic cruelty to animals which is reminiscent of the Mau Mau terrorist campaign in Kenya in the 1950's. The sheer savagery of the extremely brutal attacks include: an elderly farmer whose head was opened by an axe; a lady of 84 who was repeatedly raped; a year old baby set alight; farmers strangled, garrotted; mutilated, dumped into boiling water, suffocated, slashed with pangas, repeatedly stabbed, tortured with a heated iron; etc.
Source: The Great South African Land Scandal, by Dr Phillip du Toit
(The link will take readers to the blog.)

Why is this sadistic practise still alive and well in South Africa, in the year 2011? 

I know for a fact that several ex-South African policemen, not from the apartheid era, but from this current new democratic era, are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, as a consequence of what they have witnessed at crimes scenes. I am still in daily contact with these men and women, and it breaks my heart to hear how their lives have been shattered by the sadistic images of brutality that are fixed in their memories. I thought I saw my far share of horrific scenes during my career as a cop, but it’s not a patch to what these cops have experienced!

It completely boggles my mind that the ANC government seems powerless to stop these senseless killings, -- but on second thoughts, - no, let me rephrase that... On watchful consideration and meditation over countless pages of documents, over a period of more than 3 years, I’ve come to the conclusion that their hopelessness may be directly linked to the fact that their minds are still bogged down under the same ancient evil spell (Cain’s Way) that is still influencing the minds of most criminals in this country today.

The recent blasphemous remarks made by President Zuma was a sneaky malicious mockery, directed towards Christians in this country. The ANC’s denial that blasphemy was intended is in fact a confirmation that his remarks were intended to be intimidating, and that Zuma is NOT a Christian, even though he professes to be one!

A very important fact that South Africans should aware of, is that farmers have always been targets on the African continent, and not only in Southern Africa. Christian farmers who have plans to relocate to the Congo, should therefore be most wary about this venture. (See also related posts: The irresistible urge to go farming and Beware of the Congo).

In the Central African Republic (CAR) for example, where cotton, coffee, and tobacco make up a major proportion of exports, it has always been the farmers who get slaughtered. These farmers are not White but Black, and their attackers have always been Arab militias. The same phenomenon has happened in Southern Chad (bordering Northern CAR) in the fertile, rain-drenched valley where Black Christian farmers live a sedentary life. I can go on-and-on, but the point is: All over Africa, it is always the Christian farmers – the people who feed the communities, who get slaughtered. In all these cases their attackers are non-Christian. So what is this telling us?

My argument has always been that the current genocide of Boer farmers have absolutely nothing to do with the colour of their skin. This is a spiritual (occult) onslaught on Christians by demented souls of the devil himself!  What right mind would want to slaughter the hands that feed them?

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the 3000-plus farmers (Boers) who have been murdered in South Africa so far, were all Christian. (For more info. visit the sister blog TIA 4 CHRIST, to view  the article: The Persecution and Genocide of Christians).

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Author/researcher Pieter Oosthuizen also highlights the ANC’s use of the African Occult as a terrorist weapon in his book, The Current genocide of Afrikaners – the blood-curdling realities of the Rainbow Nation. The publication is in Afrikaans, and is in the proses of being translated into English. The CD or PDF-document can be ordered for R150 ($15) from farmitracker@gmail.com. Reviews of the publication can be viewed (in English) on censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com.

The author Isak Niehaus also illustrates in his book, Witchcraft, Power And Politics: Exploring the Occult in the South African, how the ANC and other Marxist-Communist groups used witchcraft beliefs to further their own agenda in South Africa. Niehaus of course glorifies these witches, but it is still a very interesting read indeed – if you can read between the lines! South Africans can order his book through Kalahari.net.

Suggested further reading (Witchcraft and African Ritual):
(The links will take readers to the Kalahari.net page related to the publication)


85 comments :

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

A very interesting post. You mentioned the following:
"The root of all evil on planet earth started with Cain"

I am not quite with you on this point. Could you elaborate on this one?

I personally knew a Sup in the old SAP who was in the anti-satanic squad (initials KJ). I am sure that you know who I am talking about.

It would be great if he could contribute to these kinds of posts (no offense on your posts - they are informative and make for interesting reading).

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I realize that there is quite a lot to absorb in this posting, and that the article also contains numerous links to other articles. This article will remain the latest posting for the next 2 – 3 days, as I need a rest from all this. All comments to this posting will be read, but forgive me if I cannot respond immediately. Enjoy the weekend!

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Macaw,

Sorry, it seems our comments crossed at the same moment I posted the above.

Your concerns regarding Cain is not a question that I will be able to clarify in a few simple words. It took me almost a lifetime to understand the correlation between satan’s son Cain and the Jesus birth.

May I suggest that you explore the website>> http://biblestudysite.com/

The website may look a bit old and cranky but it has an enormous wealth of info. Use the search function to find topics. It may take some time to come to terms with everything covered there, but believe me if I say it is the best source of TRUTH you will ever find on the entire web!

Yes, I personally knew Kobus Jonker. We used to give lectures together, but that was many years ago. I have not heard from him in a while.

Take care!

Majuba said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@TIA

"if we examine the following carefully:
1 who the perpetrators are,
2 who their prime targets are, and
3 their modus operandi while committing the crime.
The answers to number 1 and 2 above are: 1 – Christians, and 2 – Racist Non-Christian Blacks"

Nave I missed something here?
Surely the answers are:
1 who the perpetrators are -Racist Non-Christian Blacks
and
2 who their prime targets are - Christians

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Majuba,

Oh my - thanks for pointing this out - I've just fixed it!

It's been a looong week!

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Wow. What a bunch of misinformation.

Firstly the official murder rate in South Africa is 34 per 100 000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_rate

Secondly whites have a far lower murder rate than other races. White females 2.8 per 100 000 and white males 13 per 100 000.

http://writingrights.org/2010/01/12/race-class-violent-crime-in-south-africa-dispelling-the-huntley-thesis/

And even with the most creative maths how did you get to that murder rate for white farmers ? There are 250 000 - 350 000 commercial farmers in South Africa depending on who you ask.

http://www.iss.co.za/cjm/farmrep/part11.pdf

Assuming only 250 000, If 3000 were murdered in 17 years that would mean around 1 in 3000 or 33 out 100 000. Luckily according to the T.A.U only around 1200 people of all races have been murdered since 1992, so it's actually far lower.

http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-04-08-anatomy-of-a-farm-murder


There, posted with actual facts. Not pulled from some random orrifice. Now do you have the guts to not censor the truth this time ?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Not to mention that 3000 is said to be made up of farmers and their families. And the actual list is made up mostly of people who are not farmers, often not white , or even dead. How do you sleep at night in this bed of lies ? Your house of cards is very flimsy my darling.

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I see rooster has made is usual appearance on a blog that tells the truth. Here is hoping he learns the truth....

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Macaw

I posted link to verify everything I claimed. My links were made up of the best available data, not speculative confirmation bias based unsubstantiated drivel.

If you want to put your head in the sand , that's up to you. Don't expect me to do the same.

Anyone claiming to be at the helm of the truth of the crime situation in South Africa and doesn't even know the official crime statistics is clearly a hack.

Zarky said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

It looks like Rooster has all the answers and insults as usual.
Please do us a favour and get lost as your hormones/ego are ruling your head, you do not have life experience even though you might think you know everything.

Now we wait for the usual insult, I mean response - lol!

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I made a huge typo. When I said 1200 people of all races have been murdered since 1992, I mean to say "farmers."

South Africa still has a really high murder rate of around 16 800 murders a year or 34 per 100 000. It is down per capita by 50% now since 1994 when it was 70 per 100 000.

http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-12-03-murder-down-30-since-1994-research-shows

The article doesn't reflect the 8.6% decrease since last year. Of those 16 800 by the rate I linked to in the last post around 280 people are whites (of all descriptions most not farmers). 250 men and 30 women.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ zarky

What can I say. Studied this for close to 5 years. I can link you to the answers in record time. No insults. Let's just deal with the facts and I will be a happy chap.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Dear Readers,

Please excuse the comments posted by “The Rooster”. He has a nasty habit of harassing blog sites that mention the plight of Boer farmers in South Africa. In his own words he describes himself as “a libertarian neo anarchist”.

This fellow is merely seeking attention (and traffic) for the blogs he has created. His blogs are already in violation of Blogger Terms of Service, as they contain personal threats and language that defame the reputation of persons, often using the most fowl and most vulgar language. About 90 percent of the comments on his blogs are posted by himself, which basically boils down to SPAM-creation – another violation of Blogger tov.

He also spammed this blog in the previous posting entitled:
Is the Genocide of Boer Farmers a Myth? Some of the comments were deleted and others were marked as SPAM. When this happens he merely goes to his own blogs where he rants, raves and makes threats.

I am sooo not interested in this chap. He bores me to death!

I will (for now) allow the comments he has made on this posting. I suspect he will probably be back to post some more. If it amounts to SPAM, it will be removed!

By the way Mr Rooster…
I am NOT your “darling”!!! You are under the impression that Tia Mysoa is a female. If you have gone to the trouble of actually reading the posts published here, you would have noticed that I am a 50 year-old retired policeman (male) with 24 years experience in the SA Police.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Well you sure come across as a woman. Irrational, emotive arguments based on no verifiable data. Thanks for letting me get my comments in. You can be as personal as you like, but don't trying turn me into some boogey man. I haven't lied on your site. I just just posted alternative views based on proper data which don't support your claims. If you can find errors in the validity of what I have posted then point them out. But don't censor it ! That's dishonest. As a Christian I'm sure you support the truth right ?

And what you have posted "facts wise", whether you know it or not, is simply not true.

But again, much respect for letting an alternative view on here. Too often people's confirmation bias allows them only to see what they WANT to see. And I have not spammed your blog. I responded to people who called me a liar and refused to read the facts I had posted. You sought to censor me and I will let that rest upon your conscience. The truth can't be hurt by censorship, only peoples ability to hear it can. If that's your game , so be it.

Majuba said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Rooster

Where your position falls flat is that you quote sources that have the same position and agenda as you - so who can take you seriously?

With all your accurate factual research, how about answering the following?

(1) The ANC is extremely reluctant to post crime statistics - particularly murder/killings - why?
(2) When they do they are very late, and as
has been proven in the past not accurate - i.e. massaged downwards. So who is seriously going to believe them?
They have cried wolf far to often
(3) A few years ago Interpol published a report (now unavailable) that the daily murder rate was closer to 80/day, and not the 50/day that the ANC/SAPS claimed.
In your esteemed opinion. who do we believe?

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Majuba: well look at what happened with the matric pass results - suddenly the ANC released new figures where the pass rate miraculously went up http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2011/02/11/exams-made-easy

the same thing happens with the crime stats - the ANC openly admits that it needs time to put the figures into a usable statistic form....

and what about the lost dockets - at least 671 known cases a year - these are crimes that will not be part of the statistics...

http://www.jacarandafm.com/kagiso/content/en/jacaranda/jacaranda-news?oid=483644&sn=Detail&pid=6182&Police-lose-more-and-more-dockets

and then many crimes are just not reported - my 10 year old niece was stabbed by a black youth who stole her bicycle - at the police station we were asked 'would you like to open a case'... FFS! a 10 year old girl gets violently robbed and the cops ask if we want it reported!!!!

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ mujabe

Firstly the S.A.P.S posts murder stats evey single year. One of the few countries in the world to do this on such a regular basis. Most of the third world report no stats. Why would you say that's "reluctant?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_rate

Secondly if the murder stats are fudged the following people would need to be in on the conspiracy :

Every single policeman. Murder stats are released per station and then nationally. All cops are aware of their own personal stations murders stats and if this was being misepresented they would know. Ask the writer of this blog. The hospitals. In the same way doctors issue death certificates and issue the cause of death. Insuarance companies employ actuaries who indipendently research all of this. etc The list goes on. It would have to be a massive country wide conspiracy. As Cele rightly pointed out the one crime stat you can't cheat is "murder."

Please show me where it's been proved that it's massaqed down ? Why do you guys just make stuff up ?

3) How convenient that your "report" is "now unavailable". And I'd also like to know what "a few years ago is". It's certain ly true our crime was far worst in the past. Murder was twice as prevalent in 1994. See above post for link.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Majuba: well look at what happened with the matric pass results - suddenly the ANC released new figures where the pass rate miraculously went up http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2011/02/11/exams-made-easy

the same thing happens with the crime stats - the ANC openly admits that it needs time to put the figures into a usable statistic form....

and what about the lost dockets - at least 671 known cases a year - these are crimes that will not be part of the statistics...

http://www.jacarandafm.com/kagiso/content/en/jacaranda/jacaranda-news?oid=483644&sn=Detail&pid=6182&Police-lose-more-and-more-dockets
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Firstly matric results are an easy thing to "fudge". Just use a sliding scale. That's always happened. You can't "sliding scale" murder.

Regarding dockets, they have nothing to do with murders being reported. A docket is made after a report hence why they know they are lost. Also there are many stats used to get the murder rate as I pointed out in the last post.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

To expand. Before a murder docket is even opened there needs to be a cause of death certificate. Stats hospitals keep and report to home affairs. So at the very least the doctors and hospitals of the country must involved in the conspiracy. You can believe this codswallop if you want, but think things through before you swallow everything you are told.

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

One cannot debate with these liberal idiots like Rooster, Rendier Gouws et al… I cannot see what the hell this bloke is trying to achieve here, except create turmoil. Statistics prove next to nothing!! the numbers get manipulated all the time. Why do you think mortuaries, hospitals, etc refuse to submit their registers to private individuals for scrutiny. The registers are a mess with errors, that’s why! SA crime stats ACCURATE my arse!

Murder stats CAN be manipulated. It’s a simple matter of playing with numbers, words, dates, and other variables. Murder can become anything you want in ur fucked up country as long as it explains an unnatural death. Murder can change to culpable homicide, or suicide with one stroke of a pen. Why is there no current data available for suicide in SA? What are those boons hiding?

Cmon rooster ur so clever, explain this or fuckoff from this blog.

Carl UK

Majuba said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

OK Mr Know it all - how about this

"3) How convenient that your "report" is "now unavailable". And I'd also like to know what "a few years ago is". It's certain ly true our crime was far worst in the past. Murder was twice as prevalent in 1994. See above post for link."

The Interpol Report is referred to in an article by Dr Peter Hammond from
the Frontline Fellowship. He is a committed Christian who runs this mission and has suffered seriously for his faith. Check him out on U Tube.

I went to the trouble of writing to Interpol and requested a copy of the report. They tried the fudge-send-from-pillar-to-post-runaround tactic but I persevered and eventually got a response. In a nutshell - the report is not available to the public. I was politely booted in to touch.
Could it be that at the time of the request the esteemed elected President of Interpol - South Africa's one and only Commissioner Jackie Selebi - was on paid suspension whilst he was being investigated on a number of criminal charges?

Coincidence?

" A few years ago" - can't recall a specific date but I would say between 2 and 4 years ago. Is that accurate enough?

Massaged down: Interpol @ 80/day v SAPS @ 50/day
That is a 60% REDUCTION.

Come now, how dumb can you be?
It is common knowledge that Police in many cases describe farm killings as "robberies gone wrong' and a murder docket is not opened but the death is logged under some other category. The SAPS are quite inventive - read their "annual" reports which come out very late.

Remember the moratoriums on crime - specifically murder - statistics?
If I recall correctly the public was kept in the dark for at least 2 years.

Duck, dive, jump, jive, bob and weave as much as you like.
Your smoke screens will not fool us.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

One cannot debate with these liberal idiots like Rooster, Rendier Gouws et al… I cannot see what the hell this bloke is trying to achieve here, except create turmoil. Statistics prove next to nothing!! the numbers get manipulated all the time. Why do you think mortuaries, hospitals, etc refuse to submit their registers to private individuals for scrutiny. The registers are a mess with errors, that’s why! SA crime stats ACCURATE my arse!


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Carl you are literally making this up. Mortuaries and hospitals all the time give up their statistics for scrutinty. Absolutely every single year in fact. Further up I link to a study that is based entirely on mortuary findings.

This one shows the white murder rate to be 6 times lower than the national average. White female especially low at 2.8 per 100 000.


Stop making things up Carl, it's dishonest. And there is data available for suicide !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Carl why are you lying so much ?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Ha ha ha ha !

So some obscure priest alluded to some apparent invisible study, that Jackie Selebi the ex minister of interpol is stoping us from seeing ? And this is the "piece de la resistance" in your agument that crime in South Africa is what again ?

And even if it did exist. Based on what data could interpol come up with murder stats in South Africa better than our hospitals, morgues, police and insurance actuaries can ? You think "old mutual" or "sanlam" don't have murder data put into their "chance of dying" algorythems ? Do you think they don't do massive studies into this ? Why no outcry from them ? Or the WHO who study cause of death ? Shurrup man.

Ha ha. Try take that to the court of law. Hey seen the loch ness monster lately ? How about bigfoot ? Got some time to hear about this no catch "free holiday concept" I know about ?

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Don’t you tell me I’m making this up u little twirp. I’ve worked in several major hospitals and mortuaries all over the world. what I exactly I did there is none of ur damn business but for the record, it had something to do with research into gunshot wounds in live patients, and establishing protocols for removal of exhibits without damaging the evidence. in the year 2003 the owner of this blog kindly facilitated access to several medical facilities and mortuaries in Natal. non of those facilities, had any protocols in place. I’ll refrain from describing the chaotic state of their admin. and recordkeeping.

I would not rely on wikipedia as a reliable source for stats BUT have another look at the link u furnished http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

This is what it declares about the SA stats in the reference section:

This data is for URBAN AREAS ONLY. There is no recent data available for the whole of South Africa Burrows, Stephanie; Lucie Laflamme (February 2006). "Suicide Mortality in South Africa". Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology. http://www.springerlink.com/content/px7v1186u51k738w/. Retrieved 2009-07-05.

Now who is the liar?

don’t bother replying. YOU are the bullshitter mate!

Carl

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster
Nice smear campaign you have against this blog at Shut Up Whitey.

Keep it up Rooster!!!
Your day of unfeathering shall also come to pass, and when that happens don’t cry to mama.

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Tia - as this is your blog, what about a poll on who pays this featherless capon (rooster - feel free to look up the meaning of the word capon).

My vote is the ANC. It would be interesting to see other thoughts.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Rumour has it that he has been asked to stand as an ANC candidate in Port Elizabeth.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Hi Carl.

Anyone can make anecdotal claims and rants to support their beliefs. Fact is South African Mortuaries and hospitals data is freely available. Your implication that it isn't (hinting at some hidden agenda) is entirely bogus.

And let me get this straight. You snidly claim the S.A.P.S report deaths as suicides, then next post say they don't report suicides ?


Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha !

You walked right into that. Come on laugh at yourself.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Actually I was asked to stand for the D.A.

True story.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster
Nice smear campaign you have against this blog at Shut Up Whitey.

Keep it up Rooster!!!
Your day of unfeathering shall also come to pass, and when that happens don’t cry to mama.

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Yeah I'm so terrified for being exposed as a humanist. lol.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

THE ROOSTER SMEAR CRUSADE (image snapshot)

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Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

So we have a DA candidate….

who has a blog called SHUT UP WHITEY;
who posts images implying that others who don’t agree are stupid;
who describes this blog as “crock” and “shite”;
who implies that Christians who read the old testament are lunatics.
who calls woman “bitches”
and so on….

I wonder how the DA will feel about this co-called candidate of theirs?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Where I come from people are more worried with getting jobs and food on the table than verkrampte values. I'm not a candidate, I was approached and declined.


Nice quote whoring on my site to take things way out of context by the way.

I thought being honest was instrinsic to be Christian. Oh well, you probably know more about Christianity than me. I don't deal in interpreting the stone age classics of supersticious animistic goat herders.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Nothing was taken out of context, your “whoring” image will speak for itself.

I invited you days ago to email me…. I’m stil waiting!

I am not one of those meek, timid-type Christians you can bully. If you attack and ridicule my religion then you automatically become my enemy.

Feel welcome to go crazy on this blog, but rest assured that I will not be reading a single word.

SPAM will be removed!

Cheerio

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Please let Rooster leave feedback once maybe twice, why let he take over a website? Using his shotgun approach? THIS is wrong!!

In the States everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, he gave his view, so what!!!

I DISAGREE with him!!,as well as others.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

To disagree with me is to disagree with the facts. At least respect yourself enough to read my critique of Andriana before making up your mind that I'm wrong. That's just lying to yourself. Being so blind you just won't see.

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And the D.A are a progressive party. The A.N.C are the conservatives. The D.A won't like your take on homosexuality and neo racism even more.

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I'll say this about the "verraaier"
The individual referred to as Rooster is a South African expatriate who, despite the fact that he's been abroad since 2007, attempts to sell South Africa as a multicultural "rainbow paradise", even though the South African rainbow does not lead to a pot of gold.
Rooster made a number of inflammatory troll and flame comments on the previous SAS blogs, and edits the ShutUpWhitey blog, which gives you a hint as to what he really thinks about Whites.
He celebrates the demise of SAS HERE, and he minimises the South African farm murders in this other blog, claiming that only 1,165 have been killed.
It is unknown if Rooster had a hand in taking down SAS, but he obviously hasn't exactly donned sackcloth and ashes over its demise.

The value of South Africa Sucks wasn't just in its truthfulness, but also in its prominence.
It achieved such a stratospheric following that it also served as an unofficial "gatekeeper" for other pro-White South African blogs.
While the other blogs are also quite useful, none achieved the prominence of South Africa Sucks.
So the loss of SAS is serious.

Tia - Thanks for the great work... keep it up

Macaw said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Tia, what happened to my post regarding a poll?
@Anon 4:56. You say that the chicken is an expat. Where does he reside as the "facts" he has must be from some comic book....

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Macaw

Your post regarding a poll is above @ Feb 26 2:52PM

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@ Rooster

I will read what I want, where I want, I WILL agree and disagree , I will make up,my mind with or without your input, I WILL DECIDE what is FACT OR NOT.


My personal view is that you got a hidden agenda, you rejoice every time someone is hurting,you are pushing down minorities, your ecstasy approach when people are hurting, laughing when people are crying for help, definitely you do not transfer any compassion, respect, any helpful hand, positive attitude, sense of understanding or lending a sympathetic ear.

You sound like extremist that like bulling people. I do my utmost to avoid people like you, It’s my RIGHT.

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Rooster, the one-man propaganda show.

What do you for a living anyway that gives you so much free time to sit and generate lies and propaganda 24/7? Who is paying you?

Probably in the tourist biz right, perhaps own a B and B or something like that in the eastern cape, and your agenda is partly to lure gullible tourists here so you want to cover up the truth to make money, because being a psychopath you feel nothing if people die for your agenda.

What folks need to understand about Rooster baby is his deep seated hatred of whites comes from being rejected by them from a very young age. He so wanted to fit in, but being an annoying social reject and loser and somewhat crazy and sociopathic, they rejected and bullied him. The only people who would be his friends were blacks. So he seek to fit in, first with blacks, later with Asians etc., because he is not accepted by his own people. Even in Aus he could not fit in.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Yawn. So the fact that she lies , and that's a fact, is not important to any of you ? Far rather portray me as satan for simply debunking her malicious lies ?

Majuba said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

"So some obscure priest"

So obscure in fact that he mobilised 35,000 people to march on parliament and protest at Mandela's liberalisation of the nation's abortion laws - in other words condoning and supporting murder.

The result of this protest march was that 5 days later Dr Hammond was summoned to a 1 hr personal audience to put his case to Mandela.

The result of the audience was that Mandela set his tax hounds on to Dr Hammond's organisation and guess what? It was found to be squeaky clean

"alluded to some apparent invisible study, that Jackie Selebi the ex minister of interpol is stoping us from seeing ?"

Your reading comprehension is not too good.
It was Interpol, not Selebi, (By the way ex SAPS commissioner and ex Interpol President - not ex minister) that refused to release the report.
Remember I said Selebi was suspended from all police duties at the time.

"And even if it did exist. Based on what data could interpol come up with murder stats in South Africa better than our hospitals, morgues, police and insurance actuaries can ?"

My educated guess is that the Interpol report is the true and genuine figures received from the SAPS as part of their global crime monitoring service. The figures released by the SAPS to the SA media are the massaged ones to pull the wool over the eyes of the SA public. Again this is just an educated guess.

Instead of engaging in spats on this blog why don't you do something constructive with your time and write to both Dr Hammond and Interpol and request the true facts.

If you posted the results of your research on your blog somebody might just visit it to read it instead of you having to escape from your burrow to other people's blogs to spread your bile.

Who knows? With that info in the public domain your blog would actually live up to it's name and Whitey WILL have to Wake Up - and disregard your smoke screens.

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You and Rendier are a communist/spy/traitor and a P..S in my eyes. The fact that you are living in denial to what is happening in South Africa is just beyound me. Either you are being paid or have agenda's or you are just plain stupid.

I have never before got involved in answering any blog comments but you just make my blood boil. You and your friend are one of those types that will cary on with this shyte untill the day that you are directly or indirectly affected by whats going on in SA, and then end up screaming the loudest.

Dont come knocking at my door then.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Well Rendier is pretty outspoken and against the A.N.C.

Nobody bothered to ask me , but I also think they're a useless lot.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Hey thanks for that "other list" adriana linked too. The so called "70 page list that shows she is not lying with her "3700 list" of bollock ?

The list of by the way....1600 names of ....

...ha ha...get this..

Not all whites....many (if not most)just robbed (some trivial)and not murdered etc.

Again she just assumed we would not read it ? What a dishonest person !

Scotty said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ rooster

Hey cockhead

Not difficult to find you trolling blogs and websites spreading your communist propaganda and lies, isn’t it? Your arguments on the South African White Farmers’ Genocide are useless because the source of your information is flawed. Do you really think your bingo bongo friends are keeping accurate figures of the crime in SA?
Think again, cockhead! I see you are an expat. Ever been to a police station run by your noble savage friends? What a joke! They can’t even fill in a simple car accident report!
They tell you it takes two months to get a case number for insurance purposes?
And you tell me they are keeping accurate records of crime? What a laugh!
And you want to convince us the statistics from SAPS are reliable? What a Joke!
Mortuary Findings? Another joke! Have you bothered to do some research on the state of the South African mortuaries? Of course not! They lose bodies, they leave bodies lying around for months, and they can’t even enter records properly. Pray that none of your loved ones is involved in a fatal accident because you might never be able to find them in our mortuaries.
Hospitals? Government hospitals? That’s another travesty. Fucking lazy, good for nothing staff. Do you really think that your noble “educated” savage doctors and nurses are going to waste time keeping accurate records of violent deaths… yeah right!

You see, cockhead, the incompetence and laziness of your noble savage buddies is a huge drawback in the accuracy of the statistics you so much love to quote. And that’s without counting the meddling by the ANC.


You see, I also read the Interpol report but I didn’t know it is not available anymore; however I’m sure I have the pdf file saved somewhere.
You see, cockhead, Interpol must have reliable sources to realize how questionable the SAPS stats are. And it wasn’t only Interpol that put the number of murders to almost double that of SAPS. There are also some aid agencies that will put that number as much higher…

You call people on this blog (and others) dishonest and liars; you are a first class hypocrite! You manipulate and distort information to promote your deceptive message to what purpose only God knows.
Your denial of a Boer/White slaughter is pure depravity. You are one sick puppy.
I think your parents failed to give you a good hiding when you needed it.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

So apparently we are incapable of recording stats, but interpol, working from the outside with only a passing interest in S.A magically can ? Oh shut up.

And all the "you're a commie yadda yadda yadda" nonsense is like water of a ducks back. You lot have been setting up strawman to beat down for years rather than deal with the actual facts I present. It's boring and revealing of how bankrupt your counter arguments are.

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@ cockhead

typical of you isn't it? Pick a line and twist it to suit your own purpose and ignore the rest... YAWN, how predictable... typical commie behavior.

The arguments that are brought up on this blog as well as in others are solid and based on facts and first hand experience unlike you that speculate on and misquote most of the information. No substance in your arguments just a lot of disinformation in the best commie fashion...

you consistently troll these websites to disseminate your anti-white propaganda ignoring the trauma and grief whites have to endure in SA. You belittle and insult older generations and their beliefs when you can't counter act their arguments and facts which is all the time.

you have too much time in your hands, it seems. May be you should join the army, it is never too late.

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Scotty. A whole bunch of noise and baseless accusations, and not a single verifiable fact posted.

The basic meat of your post is : Rooster, you're a commie. Rooster you're a white hater. Other than those baseless insults I have nothing to offer that proves anything you have said wrong, so I'll just go after you and stereotype you as something negative, rather then focus on your message and facts you have posted.


Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

You belittle and insult older generations and their beliefs when you can't counter act their arguments and facts which is all the time.


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The irony. If there is anything my blogs consistantly do it's posts objective facts and stats, not emotive spleen venting tosh. It's my critics who are guilty of that. After all you called me a white hater and commie in your last post. Why ? Because some lady lied and I pointed it out ?

I didn't know that to love whites you had to defend liars and praise hatemongering ? You taught me something new. Funny I always loved whites for being a noble,honest and intelligent ethnic group. Not for being scaremongering , warmongering , hatemongering deceptive liars.

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Folks, this featherless excuse of a capon is just trying to get attention. Ignore his rantings. 10 to 1 he has not figured out that he is a capon, so let him rant and rave. That is all he is good for.

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there is only one way out of this for you:

do a "reverse" Michael Jackson so you don't have to concern yourself with the white race and you can live happily ever after among your noble savages and recreate yourself with their culture.
I'm sure wacko would have loved to exchange skin with you... pity he's gone!

The resentment you harbor against white people is not normal, you have serious issues. By the same token if you have made it your mission in life to vilify some lady because her stats are not 100% correct why don't you use the same ardor to expose the inefficiencies, corruption and the depravity of the ANC if you consider yourself such an unemotional, upright and objective individual?

Makes you think doesn't it?

The fact is that it is not if the number of white farmers killed is 3000 or 2999 or 2468; it is still in the thousands. For such a short period of time, since the ANC is in power, it clearly indicates a motive behind it and besides the fact that NOTHING OR VERY LITTLE is stolen during these violent abominable fatal attacks against whites. You deny this? Is your focus on proving that the farm murders are actually 2999 and not 3000 as some lady indicated?

Why don't your rather focus your energy on the hundred of thousands of REPORTED rapes that plague this country? of which nearly 40% are of children?

But I guess, while you enjoy your safe bubble overseas, it is easy to denigrate some lady who is at least creating awareness on the plight of the white south Africans.

Majuba said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

I notice you are remarkably silent when presented with a factual challenge

Have you contacted Interpol for the report yet, and have you researched Dr Hammond's articles yet?

You maintain that you only deal in facts.
This is your big break
Go and find them and present them here for everyone to see

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

And what follows are more strawmen. Still nothing of substance.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

The fact is that it is not if the number of white farmers killed is 3000 or 2999 or 2468; it is still in the thousands. For such a short period of time, since the ANC is in power, it clearly indicates a motive behind it and besides the fact that NOTHING OR VERY LITTLE is stolen during these violent abominable fatal attacks against whites. You deny this? Is your focus on proving that the farm murders are actually 2999 and not 3000 as some lady indicated?


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No it is not in the thousands. And theft is almost always the motive. Too much for me to get into in one post but I will put the evidence for that up on my site shortly (maybe tomorrow.)

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Rooster

I notice you are remarkably silent when presented with a factual challenge

Have you contacted Interpol for the report yet, and have you researched Dr Hammond's articles yet?

You maintain that you only deal in facts.
This is your big break
Go and find them and present them here for everyone to see

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No, I'm sorry. It's not my prerogative to find evidence for your claims. If I claim there is a pink unikorn in my stomach I don't expect it to be your job to prove me wrong before you dismiss me. It's my job to prove my claims correct.


And when does anyone actually ever reply to me with anything other than insults or strawmen arguments relating to my character anyway ?

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Let me just clarify : No ! It is not acceptable to murder someone whatever your motive is (theft or not). I'm in no way saying these horrible crimes are in any way justified. They are disgusting acts. But is it "government sanctioned genocide" ? or other such paranoid tripe ? Hell no.

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@Rooster

The facts that you produce is totally misleading, how can you use South Africa stats as an reference point if they don’t even report farm murders. How can you use facts out of whole population and then change that to white farmers, You think everyone reading your comments are going to believe your LIES,

you keep on B/S, why not stop behaving like a small kid and at least try to give TRU facts.

YOUR REF
http://www.iss.co.za/cjm/farmrep/part11.pdf

Is a web that’s denying farm murders? You call that THE GOSPEL,(as for a libertarian, neo anarchist, whenever you call yourself )

YOUR RACIST remark that whites are noble honest intelligent group, YOU mean ALL whites NO OTHER ethnic group HOW RACIST is THAT.

As for rejoicing and saying NO FARMMURDERS, You said” I live on a farm with my doors open”, it seems that you are not even in South Africa, how is that not telling the TRUTH.

It seems that YOU are a LAIR!!!!!!!!,, Negative attention makes you tick someone gave you a very bad experience, advice is to seek medical attention ,specially for LYING !!!!(PROPOGANDA)

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@ Rooster

Well, if the Minister charged with safety, security, law and order tells the citizens of the country he is charged to protect that they "can simply leave" if they do not like the state of affairs, what does that tell you?

An admission of failure? Incompetence? A lack of interest in his job?
Or a tacit message to the criminals to keep putting the boot into whitey?
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I have given you the sources and the answers to disprove your claims but you refuse to inform yourself of the truth.
I experienced exactly the same with another denialist on another blog
Always the same - jump, jive, duck, dive, bob and weave when confronted with the true facts
Saving face becomes more important than uncovering the truth.

What a pathetic bunch of cop-outs you denialists are.

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Mujabe. Read this and my blog. All I get is claims I am some commie or hate afrikaners and all sorts of other character attacks. Nobody yet has proved one single claim I have made aboutthe lists as wrong. All they have done is backpedal.

And that minister said that like 10 years ago and I sort of agree. If all you are going to do in the country is bitch in a mean spirited way...well...f off. Get with the times bro. 10 years is a long time.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

What have you disproved ? As we sit here nobody denies it's less than 1200 names. Nobody denies it's not a list of whites. Very few are farmers , and some are not even dead. But when they link to that list in forums suddenly they claim "over 300 white farmers have been murdered."

Kak man. Kak is kak.

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@Rooster

It seems that when you start losing an argument you start swearing, bad language etc. suppose it’s a lack of vocabulary,

I still think this shotgun approach is wrong the article has got a different approach, with facts, one guy ranting and raving leaving 29 out 60 comments all negative, You sound that you are almost scared of the article I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ROOSTER ,I in believe farm murders, I believe Adrianna stats, I can’t understand why you hate so much,are a racist, having a mouth full and not even living in South Africa anymore.

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Hey thanks for that "other list" adriana linked too. The so called "70 page list that shows she is not lying with her "3700 list" of bollock ?

The list of by the way....1600 names of ....
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You obviously can't read afrikaans that is a list of > 1600 attacks not all attacks are fatal but many attacks result in multiple deaths.

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I believe Adrianna stats

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Then you haven't read my blog. Simple as that. There is absolutely 0% chance that Adrianas stats are correct. They are not just wrong they are massively wrong. I have linked to the facts. Believe what you want. It won't make it true.

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You obviously can't read afrikaans that is a list of > 1600 attacks not all attacks are fatal but many attacks result in multiple deaths.

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Oh I can read Afrikans alright .Just wait for my delicious expose of that site. It would have been fine if Adriana hadn't pretended it was something it wasn't.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Hi everybody,
This is just a quick message to inform commentators that the comment posted by Anonymous above (February 27, 2011 4:53 PM) ended up in Blogger’s spam folder. I only discovered this now. (been out all day).

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

May I suggest that Anonymous commentators sign their postings with a name of some sort, to make it easier for others to refer to. Choose any name and stick to it, .. just a suggestion!

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Murder in South Africa: a comparison of past and present

Written by: Rob Mc Cafferty (M. Ed)
Communications Director
United Christian Action

Report Date: June 2003

Click here to view the report online
or...
Click here to download the MSWord document(only 479KB)

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Cloud over murder statistics
Mail & Guardian, dated 2010-11-05

A filing cabinet packed with about 100 postmortem reports of murders and other unnatural deaths, which were not referred to the police for investigation, has been discovered at the Salt River mortuary in Cape Town.... click here for the full story.

KZN police station cooked crime stats.

How cops cooked crime books.

Top cops knew stats were cooked.

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Read all your links and no reference to murder stats been "cooked". As I said, you can't cook murder stats. Too many people record them other than the police.

Do they cook other crime stats ? I don't know or care. Murder is all I'm really talking about here.

And all the United Christian Action group tosh from the year 2000. Got anything written by a credible orginisation written in the last 10 years at least ? I don't see any reason to believe a Christian group would follow the scientific method or work objectively.

They no doubt had a conclusion and worked hard to find the data for it , chrry picking and manipulating and misrepresenting. Rather much like Adriana no ?

The point is the murder rate given by the S.A.P.S and cross reference from various sources is by far the most accurate and objective murder rate available. You an't just "choose" to believe one that more confirm your bias out of convenience, even if it's from 10 years ago rather. That's intellectually dishonest.

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@TIA

Do you have to give this Rooster waste of space any more time and space on your blog?
Everything he accuses his critics of - e.g. "christian group cherry picking facts" - he is guilty of himself

He has his own blog
If anyone has any interest in what he has to say let them visit it
Everyone knows that it is a failure where he spends most of his time writing to himself.
That is why he is forced to visit other blogs to attract attention to himself and divert traffic to his blind and bigoted point of view

Please do everyone a favour and boot him into touch.

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Kubu_1

@Rooster

Keep on whining ROOSTER no one believes you, South African Stats that YOU use, is exactly as you said cooked, we got your message you’re not happy with the stats, your stats, that you cook, make up, as can see op top is totally WRONG, Why are you not living the multicultural dream, got scared?, run away !

After 30 comments I can’t see your improved stats the only stats you gave is the ones you COOK, but keep on TRYING it’s your right .

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Majuba

I am not paying much attention to this rooster. If his comments get deleted he will go howling on the other blogs he has created, where he will broadcast how THIS blog has so unfairly censored him. I’m not going to supply him with that ammo! He knows that SPAM will be removed. Repetition of the same old arguments over and over amounts to SPAM. Mr R knows this, so let’s see how things level out in the future, and let’s try keep things as civil as possible.

Thanks again for your valid input on this blog. It is much appreciated!

That apllies to all the other like-minded commentators as well!

The Rooster said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Why are you not living the multicultural dream, got scared?, run away !



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I live in South Africa. I was an expat. I came back.

Zarky said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@Rooster

You remind me of my first job interview. "Sorry sir you do not have experience"

It is exactly the same with life, you unfortunately do not have enough experience and you rely to much on Wikipedia.

The End

PS: Listen to people with experience and stop trying to justify everything out of a book or from a website.

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Hi Tia
Thank you for your effort you put in to your blog. Much appreciated.
What is happening here with regards to the above posts are a micro version of a macro-situation in RSA. We get so emotionally charged with what is going on in SA regarding the brutality of farm-murders, the incompetence of our political leaders, general crime, collapse of morals, ineffective justice, the economic castration of qualified and competent white labour, the looting of our natural resources by multi-nationals and the Chinese, etc, etc, that it becomes predictable that we will have huge emotional arguments about facts and interpretations thereof.
BUT no man makes the right decision when angry or in grief.!! Things said and done at such times are almost always regretted afterwards.
What is happening with Rooster above is a old old trick: get the attention off of the real issue and fix attention on some other discrepancy and get all involved emotionally.
His purpose is for us not to discuss the fact that farmers are brutally murdered (fact) and lets rather argue about the statistics and government involvement and everything else. Diversion tactics: let's all focus on Malema and ignore Motlantle who is much much more dangerous. Let's all focus on the ANC and never see the New World Order influence. Let's all be up in arms about "freedom of speech" and never see that editing of free speech by the media is much more dangerous. Let's all focus on the recession and never realise it's a smokescreen for massive financial takeovers. Let'sall focus on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and never realise it's a USA resource grab and strategic manouvering. (Personally I think Rooster is very very well trained by his superiors)
Yes, many other races also suffer from high murder rates and high crime rates, but right now we need to deal with our situation due to no assistance or understanding from government (politicians and the SAPD). We will not survive under this government and system if we keep supporting it financially and stay within it's grab. As unpalatable as it sounds we will have to remove and distance ourselves from this system and government.

One last thought: Why are we complaining about affirmative action, black economic empowerment if we just keep on supporting these institutions economically by continually buying from them, (who are they...just go to your local shopping centre, all the shops there subscribe to BEE and AA, and remember who supported them when they started out, and now that they grew big from eating from us they turn their back on us,...many of which is still owned by our kind...wake up people, our biggest enemies are amongst our own kind.)
Most black people buy their supplies from stalls that buy direct from the markets. Not overpriced poisoned processed food like us.

We are financing our own demise...how stupid.

Our problem is not the blacks, the chinese, the New World Order, etc, etc.

Mankind have not been able to identify and isolate genuine evil people amongst ourselves.
(the prisons are full of their accomplices but they very seldom land there, more likely you'll find the coward hiding behind a barrage of idiots and hencemen).

When earth is a glowing ember it will be too late.

Louis

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The root cause is that they believe that whites should not occupy the farms. They believe whites are not entitled to the farm lands. Whites are seen as invaders of their land. So like terrorists, they are willing to terrorize the whites and drive them off the land, so that they can claim the land.

Public Enemy Poqo said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

There are many root causes of this phenomenon. Let's start with the fact that white farmers are often racist and abuse and over-exploit the black farm-workers. Their frequent abuse of black farm-workers is well-documents in a Human Rights Watch report from 2001. The SAPS tends to not take assaults on black farm-workers seriously, but takes every alleged and actual crime against white farmers very seriously, which contradicts your and Censorbugbear's false theory that the farm attacks are part of some ANC conspiracy.
Moreover, we may have an honest discussion about how over 300 years of hatred and brutality toward blacks produced some hatred and savagery in return.

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@Public Enemy Poqo

While I appreciate the fact that someone from Cincinnati, USA, who has studied South African history for a long time, and whose interests are “History”, “politics”, and “race relations”, has gone to the trouble of leaving a comment, it saddens me to see how misinformed you are, and how you’ve been indoctrinated by the bleeding-heart liberal crap you read in the msm.

Granted, there are other causes of this phenomenon… However, this posting has attempted to address the ROOT CAUSE… What's more… this posting had no intention of bringing the race issue into the debate. It’s always the so-called “free-thinking” voice (people like yourself and Rooster) that drag the race issue into these arguments.

The posting specifically states: “… the current genocide of Boer farmers have absolutely nothing to do with the colour of their skin.” In other words, the slaughter of farmers will continue, even if there are no more White farmers left in South Africa. This has been the case all over Africa for years, and the posting has attempted to explain why.

Your comment concerning the SAPS reaction to these crimes is so absurd, that it doesn’t even warrant a response. Murder is murder, no matter what the victim’s skin colour may be. However, there was at some point concerns raised by the farming community about insufficient patrols and inadequate response times in high-risk areas. Once addressed, the concerns benefited everyone in that community, not just White farmers!

Since when has this blog propagated the theory that the farm attacks are part of some ANC conspiracy?

Show me where this blog suggests such an absurdity! The useless ANC government does not even have the intelligence to devise a plot of such proportions… It’s an inborn satanic trait, with roots going back to the beginning of time… and that was the focal point of this posting.

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@ Public enemy Poqo. I am always on the alert when someone like you comes along and uses out dated talk that you speak about i.e. “Quote” Let's start with the fact that white farmers are often racist and abuse and over-exploit the black farm-workers.
I would like to inform you that we have labor laws in place in this country and if somebody is being mistreated they are more than welcome to approach the CCMA which will act on their behalf.
If, however this farm worker does not take this option available to them and takes the law into his own hands and murders or as the saying goes “bites the hand that feeds him” we must surely come to the conclusion that this person is extremely illiterate and does not have the expertise to approach this organization.
I also feel that your last paragraph is extremely naïve and you really need to study some more on the savagery in South Africa and its History to find out who the perpetrators of savagery have been.

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@Public Enemy Poqo
@ Public enemy Poqo. I am always on the alert when someone like you comes along and uses out dated talk that you speak about i.e. “Quote” Let's start with the fact that white farmers are often racist and abuse and over-exploit the black farm-workers.
I would like to inform you that we have labor laws in place in this country and if somebody is being mistreated they are more than welcome to approach the CCMA which will act on their behalf.
If, however this farm worker does not take this option available to them and takes the law into his own hands and murders or as the saying goes “bites the hand that feeds him” we must surely come to the conclusion that this person is extremely illiterate and does not have the expertise to approach this organization.
I also feel that your last paragraph is extremely naïve and you really need to study some more on the savagery in South Africa and its History to find out who the perpetrators of savagery have been.

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@Rooster ... have you been to South Africa ?? Come here first before you think you can post facts you found on the internet . Come my boy and see the reality , the chances are pretty good that you will not return home

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To all who post comments on this blog:
I lived in S.A. on a farm for 29 years until around 2004.
I was robbed in my home while asleep,have been in 3 attempted hijackings,hab a car stolen,and lost 17 good friends to violent murder.
I have been shot at many times incl. in Alex Township,by an AK 47 at night.
All in all 67 000 plus white South Africans have been killed since 1994: Google the facts!
see: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-647481

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