Monday, February 7, 2011

A Future Independent Homeland - South Africa

It does not matter from what angle one approaches the subject of White self-rule, for at the end of the day all visions of an independent White Homeland within the borders of South Africa will forever remain an unrealistic dream. Besides the fact that the Black races totally outnumber the White race in South Africa, there are also major divisions among the ranks of the various White groups. This is the rational truth of the matter, which we simply have to accept and live with!

However, this does not mean that a future independent territory, which is not based on skin colour but rather on culture, religion, and language, is unachievable. On the contrary, if there is sufficient support for such a venture then the dreams and aspirations of many people, who are fed-up with living among savages, can indeed become a reality.

It has recently happened in Sudan, the largest country on the African continent, so why can it not happen in South Africa?

All proportion-maps of South Africa that have been designed on the basis of data pertaining to the demographics and language of the population, clearly shows a distinct split between east and west. It is the demarcation of the inland border, separating the two regions, that will surely pose major challenges in the future.

In my view, defining the northern, western, and southern borders of this future independent homeland should be a relatively straightforward project:

North: The existing borders of Namibia and Botswana
West: The Atlantic Ocean
South: The Indian Ocean
East: ???

There are also numerous other factors that need to be taken into account before one can even consider where the exact location of this future geographic inland border must be. I believe the current demographic stats (2001 census) can serve as a guideline, but a far more realistic proposal will obviously surface when the results of the next census become known later this year.

Obviously the coming census will not include the estimated 5 million illegal immigrants, including some 3 million Zimbabweans, who have made South Africa their home over the past few years. Nonetheless, I’m quite sure that the next census results will draw a proportion map similar to the ones I’ve featured on this page.


Now look very carefully in the above image where the dominant white population is distributed. You will notice that a region in the Northern Cape, in the Orange River Valley (situated in a region also known as the Green Kalahari, with Upington being the biggest town), shows a condensed distribution pattern very similar in size, if not bigger, to the fragmented distribution pattern in the Gauteng province.

TAKE NOTE: that when I speak about a “condensed distribution pattern” it is not referring to the size or density of the population. The area surrounding Upington is thus indicating a dominant group, and not the size or density of that group! In this context, a population group is dominant if it makes up more than 50% of the population in an area, or if it makes up more than 33% and no other group makes up more than 25%.

An estimate in 2010 placed the entire population of the Northern Cape province at 1,103,900 people. Whites in the province represent a mere 10.0% of that population, with the dominant group being Coloureds (50.0%). This was according to a 2007 Community Survey. In contrast, the Gauteng province is home to 11,191,700 people (2010 estimate), and according to a Community Survey in 2007, Whites made up 18.4% of that population, with the dominant group being Black African (75.2%).

The 2007 Community Survey can be downloaded here in pdf-format:

The original map initially shows that same region as a place where there were no groups dominant. The reason why I changed it to a dominant White area, is because Whites in that region were under-counted in the 2001 census, and also because the same Wikipedia page dealing with demographics displayed another map, also drawn from the 2001 census, which showed the same spot as a dominant White region.

While viewing the above map, take note that the condensed distribution pattern in the Orange Rivier Valley region surrounding Upington, has the exact same pattern as the one displayed in the first map.

The point I’m making here is that the Orange River Valley region in the Northern Cape shows a fairly large region, scattered with a predominant White population, but yet that region is left out from most proposals.

As I’ve already stated, the demarcation of the inland border dividing east and west, is going to be a challenging one, because this is the area that will border a potential diverse multi-African society, a society which will surely become increasingly more ungovernable by the day, as it does not seem as if the current behavioural-patterns of the ANC regime is ever going to change for the better, and neither does it look as if the influx of legal and illegal Black African immigrants from countries in the north will ever be placed in check.

Building the Great Wall of China along this eastern interior boundary would be the most practical long term solution, but I suppose an undertaking of such a magnitude will not only be financially unachievable, - it will also be unfairly classified by the liberal worldview as a racist construction. The ANC regime will not only oppose such a venture with all their might, backed for sure by their liberal supporters, - they will also place one obstacle after the next at every conference table where these matters will be discussed.


I have taken the liberty of displaying a few proposal on this page, including my own. Most proposals incorporate territories in the western part of South Africa. I believe it is only Dr Dan Roodt’s proposal that includes regions in the central and eastern parts of the country.

Mike Smith (political commentator) has proposed the area South of the Orange and West of the Fish river. Although I agree with his reasoning regarding the historical and moral significance of this region, I also feel that his model can be expanded to include the Northern Cape province.


Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

With all due respect TIA, why considering what has been written on the old SAS blog would you whites want to live with the Hotnots? One minute the Hotnots are the ANC scum villains, the human trash then next you want to make a 'Western South Africa' with the Hotnots? I don't get it.

Secondly Dan Roodt has not been able to answer the simply question on his blog - where do the people who live in the "Dan Ville" area which they called it going to go? More forced removals?

Thirdly, and nobody has once answered this on any of the blogs. Who is going to finance this 'Dan Ville" for the whites in South Africa?

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Hi Anonymous,

This blog was (and is) totally independent from the SAS blog. I have supported the folks on that end because I agree with most (not all) of their articles.

This blog has never targeted the Coloured people. In fact, the majority of Coloured folk have no time for the ANC and their hordes of Black sheeple that support them. There are vast regions on the west coast of Africa where you will never see a Black African. The Coloured folk like it that way.

I’m not all that clued up on Dan Roodt’s views, so unfortunately I cannot answer your question. All I can say is that forced removals must not happen with a future Independent State. That will only lead to chaos.

Thanks for visiting!

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

The ANC is not for us, say coloured voters

Willie said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ Anon above

Regarding your last question which nobody wants to answer...

You've missed the point of this posting. Read the opening paragraph again. Tia reckons that a White Homeland is an unrealistic dream, and I tend to agree with that view. The posting is not about a Dan Ville for whites in SA, so I guess that is why your question was ignored.

BoerByChoice said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Tia - Super article, insightful and provides food for thought.

I am a writer on SAS but have no issue with coloureds or indians. In fact many close friends are indian and coloured, because they share more of my culture than many blind liberal whites.
I would have no problem sharing a country with them.

I think if we are ever lucky enough to be given our own country it should include both the Northern and Western Cape and those whites who live outside of that area should be welcome to move themselves there. Those that moan and have issues with the divide, can stay in the 'new south africa'.
They, like Max du Preez, will not be missed.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

@ BoerByChoice
I cannot agree more with your sentiments, especially your last comment!

I love the Coloured people’s sense of humour…
I suppose you may have already heard this one, but it just popped in my head right now, so I might as well share it:

Gatiep is selling peaches in a box…
“Perskes, lekker perskes!” he shouts from the street corner.
A chap from JHB drives past and asks Gatiep, Is dit soet perskes?”
Gatiep replies, “Jaaa master, kyk hoe mooi still lê hulle!”

I’ll be posting a continuation of this article soon related to the east and west divide in SA – Stay tuned!

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

South and West of the Orange River and West of the Fish River. That leaves a distance of less than three hundred kilometers that is mountainousness without a natural border.

A lot easier to define and defend than either of the two proposals by Dan Roodt and the bizzare FF+ proposal. What is Roodt thinking? That may be the traditional heartland of the Boer people but there are NO natural borders and it is surrounded by hostile nations. We would have FULL employment in that volkstaat just by getting enough police/army onto our border to secure it.

West and South of the Orange / Fish Rivers is our good bet. Make a federation with the coloured state of "West Capeland" and leave the blacks the rest. We can do a kibbutz system and turn the desert green. If the climate change advocates are right - that area should start to get a lot more rain round about now...

We have historic and moral claim to the land West of the Fish and South of the Orange.

Tia Mysoa said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

I am also somewhat bewildered with the FF+ and Dr Roodt’s proposals, and would love to hear their reasoning regarding this demarcation.

The fact of the matter is that the demographic stats (2001 census) shows that the Northern Cape constitutes a fairly large area dominated by a White Afrikaans-speaking population. One must also bear in mind that according to the 2006 Local Government Elections, which the ANC won by 70.16%, there was a poor voter turnout of less than 50% in that area.

Anonymous said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

Who is going to move to this Afrikaans Nirvana? Orania is a failure.
Anyway the ANC would never allow it.

Get over it. The Afrikaners should have spent the last hundred years uniting with the English whites instead of trying to get revenge for the Boer War.

The blacks have had the last laugh. They stole the country and the Afrikaners did nothing. At least the Rhodesians fought for their country until the Afrikaners in SA betrayed them.

Ved from Victoria Institutions said... .....Click here to refresh this blog

South African Whites really need a HomeLand. It is not really an issue of colour, but of language codes of the Black which can be feudal, and despoiling of refinement.

I am at a loss why a Homeland was not created while the Whites were in power. It would have been much easier.

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